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hamas refuses to recognize israel. i asked from the peculiars lo which is how much control do they have? i have a lot of sympathy from the poor people of gaza and not hamas who are blasting rockets and the main booed of 1.5 million severely oppressed people living with no hope, no jobs. nothing. what is the way to try and get a better life for them? who can bring that to them? >> i agree with allen that israel certainly has a right to self-defense. a, i would contest the idea that this is an effective way to do that. no israelis have been killed by this shower of hamas rockets which is absolutely unacceptable and deplorable and nobody had been killed until this action. >> you can't wait until it hits a school bus. you have to stop the risk when you have hundreds and hundreds of rockets. you can't wait until it hits a school. >> now israelis have died, and i also, you know, think that at the end of the day this will be an ineffective way of advancing israeli security. i do think that engaging with the palestinian author
hamas refuses to recognize israel. i asked from the peculiars lo which is how much control do they have? i have a lot of sympathy from the poor people of gaza and not hamas who are blasting rockets and the main booed of 1.5 million severely oppressed people living with no hope, no jobs. nothing. what is the way to try and get a better life for them? who can bring that to them? >> i agree with allen that israel certainly has a right to self-defense. a, i would contest the idea that this is...
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israel's iron dome. since the start of israel's operation of civil defense, over 400 rockets, mortars and missiles hit hundreds more have been intercepted as well. how does the iron dome missile defense work? for one, it's able to calculate each rocket's trajectory and only intercept those that will hit a target and this is done through a vast array of sensors located around the country which determine whether a rocket is expected to land into a populated area or not. >> jamie: meanwhile, the white house today is reiterating that israel, quote, as a right to defend itself defense any attacks and the top two aides of president obama or top aide i should say, also telling reporters that the u.s. and israel both want an end to the rocket fire. that's coming from the gaza strip. president obama has also spoken to the leaders of egypt and turkey, and the administration feels they have the ability to encourage hamas to end this violence. >> and while this situation in the mideast develops, president obama is o
israel's iron dome. since the start of israel's operation of civil defense, over 400 rockets, mortars and missiles hit hundreds more have been intercepted as well. how does the iron dome missile defense work? for one, it's able to calculate each rocket's trajectory and only intercept those that will hit a target and this is done through a vast array of sensors located around the country which determine whether a rocket is expected to land into a populated area or not. >> jamie: meanwhile,...
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the president says he supports israel and will always support israel. israel is under fire, rockets are pounding their cities, should the president cut off aid to israel -- cut off aid to egypt? >> the u.s. wants to see stability in the region. president and they are not indulging israel in the last few hours. but i think it's about time to tell the egyptians to make a stand. you want to get money from the u.s., you have to stop with the violence, have you to stop indulging hamas, you know, sean, after the u.s. killed osama bin laden, hamas was the only organization that condemned the u.s., you cannot allow yourself with the hamas in one hand and the other, come to the u.s. and get u.s. dollars. >> sean: let me ask you this, i have been saying, i believe we are going to look back in history and refer to this a time of the radical islamist. we know what happened with the arab spring in egypt. muslim brotherhood's in charge. we see what happened in libya. we don't know what will unfold in syria, on top of that is correct i would argue that jordan has been
the president says he supports israel and will always support israel. israel is under fire, rockets are pounding their cities, should the president cut off aid to israel -- cut off aid to egypt? >> the u.s. wants to see stability in the region. president and they are not indulging israel in the last few hours. but i think it's about time to tell the egyptians to make a stand. you want to get money from the u.s., you have to stop with the violence, have you to stop indulging hamas, you...
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this is all see coming to you live from moscow hello and welcome to the program israel stepping up with assault on gaza time getting over one hundred fifty sites other nights including the has court has a hamas meanwhile israeli troops are amassing on the gaza border with a number of reservists all stunned by at around seventy five thousand also his policies following the developing conflict. when the air force has hit the headquarters of the hamas compound in gaza city in some separate strikes with i am an eyewitness is reporting that there is extensive damage to the building now they were a number of explosions that will heard in and around gaza city on saturday this comes after the israeli air force struck a number of government buildings on friday including the interior ministry a number of police compounds several smuggling tunnels as well as a three story building a mass has issued a statement in which it says that it will stand by its people so we are witnessing an escalation in tensions the muscles also said that in no way will it stick down now the israeli air force has said th
this is all see coming to you live from moscow hello and welcome to the program israel stepping up with assault on gaza time getting over one hundred fifty sites other nights including the has court has a hamas meanwhile israeli troops are amassing on the gaza border with a number of reservists all stunned by at around seventy five thousand also his policies following the developing conflict. when the air force has hit the headquarters of the hamas compound in gaza city in some separate strikes...
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since israel launched this air strike? >> certainly. there certainly have been. rockets falling into the area around other towns, as well, that are close to the gaza area. but, of course, we also saw yesterday that a rocket fell near jerusalem. also rockets targeted tel aviv, as well. i spent the night in the town, randi, and the people have been living with the rocket attacks for a long time. they are sort of used to them and have a routine and right now that escalated to a point that it is becoming difficult for them, as well. we were in a commercial district where normally on a friday night it would be bustling with people and the whole place was absolutely abandoned and maybe three other people there. it is something that is having a deep impact on public life. three people killed in their houses and the constant threat that is causing people to stay indoors most of the day and watch out and make out specific routes when they leave their house to make sure there is a shelter in the area, randi. >> growing more tense. f
since israel launched this air strike? >> certainly. there certainly have been. rockets falling into the area around other towns, as well, that are close to the gaza area. but, of course, we also saw yesterday that a rocket fell near jerusalem. also rockets targeted tel aviv, as well. i spent the night in the town, randi, and the people have been living with the rocket attacks for a long time. they are sort of used to them and have a routine and right now that escalated to a point that it...
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later, the latest from israel s rocket attacks continued on both sides of the gaza border. a colete update on the rising tensions. in a moneyline tonight, stocks ending the week on a positive note. posting the biggest gains today since election day on optimism that our leaders in washington will reach a deal to avoid a fiscal clef. the dow jones industrial rick breaking a four day losing streak. s&p up six and a half. nasdaq bros -- rose 16. the s&p down one and half percent. the nasdaq six week losing stak, the longest in almost four and a half years. four and a half years. and economic news, hrricane sandy took a toll on industrial production. it fell fortunes of a percent. economists expecting a two tenths of a percent increase. the yield on a ten year treasury note moving down. crude-oil prices down selling at $86.67 per barrel. and in corporate news, though losing more than 7% in its share price after reporting late yesterday, quarterly earnings fell by nearly 50%. good news for facebook. that stock up more than 6%. the social network share is holding up despite the ex
later, the latest from israel s rocket attacks continued on both sides of the gaza border. a colete update on the rising tensions. in a moneyline tonight, stocks ending the week on a positive note. posting the biggest gains today since election day on optimism that our leaders in washington will reach a deal to avoid a fiscal clef. the dow jones industrial rick breaking a four day losing streak. s&p up six and a half. nasdaq bros -- rose 16. the s&p down one and half percent. the nasdaq...
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remains firm in the backing of israel president obama spoke to israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu on friday to reiterate his support. an editor of a news junkie post says the consequences of further escalation in the conflict are not being properly considered. is well as the in tangshan of wiking the back of the hamas just like they have the intention of making the bug has a boat i personally think that even with a betting someone a pro it's only a show which would normally be as well all they are doing something very very stupid because if there's one thing that you need the muslim world and we've been seeing not only in mostly actually all over the world including in the us is or not but this to me is something that is not really well thought out because what could very easily happen is not. on these whale coming on leave are not also some annoy us enjoy all the one where you have about two million but is not as well as there are some movement of the egyptian army that is very substantial so easy way out is basically applying was fire. we're now about to a live pictures for you
remains firm in the backing of israel president obama spoke to israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu on friday to reiterate his support. an editor of a news junkie post says the consequences of further escalation in the conflict are not being properly considered. is well as the in tangshan of wiking the back of the hamas just like they have the intention of making the bug has a boat i personally think that even with a betting someone a pro it's only a show which would normally be as well...
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only a 48-hour truce between israel and hamas. so there's a positive moves ahead going on trying to end this diplomatically. but not everybody is betting on that right now, alex. >> sounds like all the pieces are on the chess board for sure. thank you very much, martin fletcher. >> let's get some perspective on this crisis. joining me is military analyst general mccaffrey. is there a danger this could turn into a larger middle east war? >> no question. i think we're one step shorter of an all out ground operation in the gaza. i don't see how the israelis could top rate continued threat to huge parts of the civilian population. and then in the background, of course, we have the iranians and hezbollah on the lebanese southern border. the israelis are quite vulnerable to these rocket strikes. fit went to all-out war there would be significant israeli losses. >> all right, general, would the u.s. get involved militarily if this does escalate? >> i don't think so. i think the iranians would be loathe to actually start firing their long
only a 48-hour truce between israel and hamas. so there's a positive moves ahead going on trying to end this diplomatically. but not everybody is betting on that right now, alex. >> sounds like all the pieces are on the chess board for sure. thank you very much, martin fletcher. >> let's get some perspective on this crisis. joining me is military analyst general mccaffrey. is there a danger this could turn into a larger middle east war? >> no question. i think we're one step...
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. >>> israel has stepped up its air assault. war planes bombed hamas government and security compounds. israel is sending more reservists to the border, and everyone is waiting are if israeli troops to invade. hamas is lobbing more rockets into israel that randed near -- landed near tel aviv and judge oors -- jerusalem. how the events a world away are playing out here. >> both sides are locked in passionate protests that are escalating with the growing violence abroad. and a ground-swell of pro-palestine supporters in san francisco for the second day in a row. [ crowd noise ] >> reporter: like the fight over abortion and same-sex marriage, all too often there is little middle ground when it comes to israel and palestine. >> the people on one side of the street are screaming for the elimination of the israeli state and calling us commies. >> it's really very hard to understand this. >> reporter: the scale of these protests outside the israeli consulate in san francisco speaks volumes. small clusters of activists outnumbered by th
. >>> israel has stepped up its air assault. war planes bombed hamas government and security compounds. israel is sending more reservists to the border, and everyone is waiting are if israeli troops to invade. hamas is lobbing more rockets into israel that randed near -- landed near tel aviv and judge oors -- jerusalem. how the events a world away are playing out here. >> both sides are locked in passionate protests that are escalating with the growing violence abroad. and a...
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inside israel and that's just. the probability of the possibility of israel launching a ground offensive parties fall asleep reporting there live from tel aviv paula many thanks indeed. at least twenty seven palestinians were civilians women and children among them have been killed since israel launched its assault on gaza on wednesday in contact with activists on documentary filmmaker harry fear who is currently working in gaza and he says much of gaza's population is a very young and that most people they're heavily reliant on the support of aid agencies. i've been to several sites to stream struck by israeli strikes frankly being out and about in the gaza strip is the most dangerous thing to do this is our real massacre according to garp since that's the bridge most of the gazan population are under the age of eighteen seventy five percent youth unemployment over sixty percent unemployment massive problem and most are you going to gaza refugee status most people over sixty percent from my own aid agencies are. j
inside israel and that's just. the probability of the possibility of israel launching a ground offensive parties fall asleep reporting there live from tel aviv paula many thanks indeed. at least twenty seven palestinians were civilians women and children among them have been killed since israel launched its assault on gaza on wednesday in contact with activists on documentary filmmaker harry fear who is currently working in gaza and he says much of gaza's population is a very young and that...
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will israel launch a major ground operation to wipe out hamas? the israelis did take out another top hamas leader today. not long after, air raid sirens went off in jerusalem, and egypt sends its prime minister to the gaza strip in a show of solidarity with the -- and did general petraeus pull a 180 degree turn in testimony today? in september he said it was videos and spontaneous demonstrations. today he said the cia knew all along it was a terrorist attack in libya. this story gets worse and worse, more and more complicated and we are going to parse through it. first up, with the fiscal cliff only 45 short days away, are we facing a stalemate or is there a new kissy huggy era coming to washington, d.c.? we've got two kissy huggy cnbc contributors. jared bernstein, former vice president, biden chief economist, and kissy huggy jim pethokoukis of the american enterprise institute. jimmy p., i love this new washington picture. and i don't want to be pessimistic. i want to be optimistic. maybe they can make a deal. but here's what i worry about, jim
will israel launch a major ground operation to wipe out hamas? the israelis did take out another top hamas leader today. not long after, air raid sirens went off in jerusalem, and egypt sends its prime minister to the gaza strip in a show of solidarity with the -- and did general petraeus pull a 180 degree turn in testimony today? in september he said it was videos and spontaneous demonstrations. today he said the cia knew all along it was a terrorist attack in libya. this story gets worse and...
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remains firm in its backing of israel president obama spoke to israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu on friday to read his support and go bad. news junkie post says the consequences of further escalation in the conflict and not being properly considered. is well as the sanction of. just. the intention of breaking the back of his boat i personally think that even with a bearing of someone approach on the ocean which would normally be. all they are doing any sort of thing very very stupid because if there's one thing that you need for the muslim world and he's been seen not only the most frequently but actually all over the world including in the us is that not just into something that is not very well thought out because what could very easily. is not. on these well coming from a leader not also some annoy us enjoy all the one where you have about two million but not as well as grow up some movement of the egyptian army that is very substantial so israel is basically applying was fire. on the later developments in gaza and israel. britain is considering following france and turkey in
remains firm in its backing of israel president obama spoke to israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu on friday to read his support and go bad. news junkie post says the consequences of further escalation in the conflict and not being properly considered. is well as the sanction of. just. the intention of breaking the back of his boat i personally think that even with a bearing of someone approach on the ocean which would normally be. all they are doing any sort of thing very very stupid...
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covered this is stork struggle for self-determination what many people may not realize is how brutal israel's blockade really is and what it means for one point five million gazans who live there it's one of the densest areas in the world and eighty percent of the population has to depend on outside goods to survive as a two thousand and ten there were only eighty one items allowed into gaza everything else has been prohibited from entering why well the israeli government claims that most weapons most items could be made into a weapons interesting claim considering it's a list that's riddled with contradictions let's see here chocolate medical supplies children's books toys these are currently the kinds of things that undermine israeli security well as we know that's ludicrous clearly there's more to the story like this according to a recently released israeli government documents israel's authorities were using food as a method of collective punishment officials intended to quote put palestinians on a diet even going so far as calculating how many calories each gazan would need per day to av
covered this is stork struggle for self-determination what many people may not realize is how brutal israel's blockade really is and what it means for one point five million gazans who live there it's one of the densest areas in the world and eighty percent of the population has to depend on outside goods to survive as a two thousand and ten there were only eighty one items allowed into gaza everything else has been prohibited from entering why well the israeli government claims that most...
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and we're looking at a situation that the whole south of israel is in a state of high alert with some one million people who have been ordered to stay in bomb shelters the point that needs to be made that when we talk about how much we are talking about and look to government that was chosen by the people of gaza back in two thousand and six we're not talking about random fighters as i say these are legitimate representatives of the people be egyptian prime minister yesterday friday was a visit to gaza to assess the situation and there was a cease fire that was called for which israel and major broke and this is despite the fact that the israeli army denies this however we have heard there were at least some two people who were killed in gaza there are some seventy five thousand reservists who have been called out these troops are now amassing along the israel gaza border and speaking to his way he's here inside as well as outside the country you have israelis who are returning as they are called up for duty very much. that we are going to look at an offensive that will happen remarka
and we're looking at a situation that the whole south of israel is in a state of high alert with some one million people who have been ordered to stay in bomb shelters the point that needs to be made that when we talk about how much we are talking about and look to government that was chosen by the people of gaza back in two thousand and six we're not talking about random fighters as i say these are legitimate representatives of the people be egyptian prime minister yesterday friday was a visit...
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is substantial so israel is basically applying we. will keep updating you on the latest developments in gaza and israel to stay with us. britain is considering following france and recognizing beneath you are an opposition group to president assad. that shortly western attempts to support the rebels will only lead to war torn country deep into chaos that's coming your way out of the shop. if you're passing through russia's to be a region you really can walk on the wild side thousands of kilometers of unspoilt countryside make up an area where it's still possible to live off the land such spectacular scenery makes it a paradise for fisherman and provides a business opportunity for hunters there are defined hunting seasons in russia but lax enforcement means many animals are killed out of the allotted times which can leave young animals orphaned and unable to survive the heart of just us forest provides a sanctuary for the most famous beast in russia it's home to a group who rescue often bear cubs and raise them when they're old enough
is substantial so israel is basically applying we. will keep updating you on the latest developments in gaza and israel to stay with us. britain is considering following france and recognizing beneath you are an opposition group to president assad. that shortly western attempts to support the rebels will only lead to war torn country deep into chaos that's coming your way out of the shop. if you're passing through russia's to be a region you really can walk on the wild side thousands of...
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israel. msnbc's martin fletcher is live in tel-aviv now. has night time offered any relief from the rocket attacks? >> reporter: actually, it hasn't. the rocket attacks continue. an israel town was hit about a half hour ago but the pace has quieted in the central part of israel. all eyes still on this one question whether or not israel will launch a ground invasion into gaza. reserve troops are still being called up, still moving to the units, joining the regular army, poised on them of gaza for the order that they don't know if it will come. meanwhile, there's very strong negotiations going on especially among arab countries with hamas and trying to get hamas to agree to a truce with israel and get israel to agree, too. israel prime minister talking to the american president talking to the egyptian president, who's talking to hamas. a possibility of a truce midweek, which could head off -- would head off an israel invasion in the short term anyway. >>> in 2009 we saw 200 of these rocket atta
israel. msnbc's martin fletcher is live in tel-aviv now. has night time offered any relief from the rocket attacks? >> reporter: actually, it hasn't. the rocket attacks continue. an israel town was hit about a half hour ago but the pace has quieted in the central part of israel. all eyes still on this one question whether or not israel will launch a ground invasion into gaza. reserve troops are still being called up, still moving to the units, joining the regular army, poised on them of...
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rules were in session and so children had their limbs melted off their faces melted off and israel of course knew because israeli intelligence very good that they were students in session in those schools that were targeted and so when you're directing a war against the children not allowing them to not allowing them in a static while they have their limbs amputated i mean this is terrorism that it's like they just want to accelerate the suffering as much as they can as sad as that is to say i don't see any other explanation for it mike let's talk about the targets as you just mentioned they target children schools israel is coming out now the israeli government saying that they're dropping leaflets over palestine to pretty much warn people hey stay away from any hamas infrastructure but i mean really hamas is the democratically elected leadership of palestine zahar ridiculous as this is they are what does this really mean all these really propaganda machine is putting out that they're doing everything they can to avoid civilian casualties and they advertise these leaflets that they d
rules were in session and so children had their limbs melted off their faces melted off and israel of course knew because israeli intelligence very good that they were students in session in those schools that were targeted and so when you're directing a war against the children not allowing them to not allowing them in a static while they have their limbs amputated i mean this is terrorism that it's like they just want to accelerate the suffering as much as they can as sad as that is to say i...
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and there's more to the story like this according to a recently released israeli government documents israel's authorities were using food as a method of collective punishment officials intended to quote put palestinians on a diet even going so far as calculating how many calories each gazan would need per day to avoid a humanitarian disaster and talk more about this disturbing reality is someone who's been to gaza and seen this crisis first and i'm joined by mike prysner co-founder of march forward thanks so much for coming on hey so you just heard us talking about this absurd list of goods that are prohibited from entering gaza you went there not too long ago why did you go and what was your experience there well i actually went to gaza in the wake of operation cast lead in two thousand and nine and the reason we went is because there had been so much death so much destruction so many casualties in that onslaught yet all of the basic things that people needed to both treat the wounded and rebuild the destruction were not allowed in so for example massive numbers of homes and hospitals and sc
and there's more to the story like this according to a recently released israeli government documents israel's authorities were using food as a method of collective punishment officials intended to quote put palestinians on a diet even going so far as calculating how many calories each gazan would need per day to avoid a humanitarian disaster and talk more about this disturbing reality is someone who's been to gaza and seen this crisis first and i'm joined by mike prysner co-founder of march...
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. >>> in the middle east rockets landed near israel's two largest cities today in the latest round of fighting with hamas militants. >> reporter: this was the scene in tel aviv. the officials say rockets fired from gaza did not reach land but fell into the sea [sirens] >> air raid sirens went off in jerusalem. rockets went off to the south of the city. no injuries reported. they are drafting reserve troops as the leaders consider waging a ground campaign. it left 45 people dead and two70 wounded since wednesday. gaza is suffering the largest human toll, the missiles pounded the gaza strip today. at least 23 pal stable conditionians, including six children, have been killed. the u.s. state department and the united -- palestinians, including six children, have been killed. the u.s. state department and the united states are talking. >>> the coach says there are no restrictions on his activities, harbough had a surgery yesterday. >> it is amazing. the heart rate gets back to normal. so, it is -- it is great that they had that technology to get that done. but, the flutter is something th
. >>> in the middle east rockets landed near israel's two largest cities today in the latest round of fighting with hamas militants. >> reporter: this was the scene in tel aviv. the officials say rockets fired from gaza did not reach land but fell into the sea [sirens] >> air raid sirens went off in jerusalem. rockets went off to the south of the city. no injuries reported. they are drafting reserve troops as the leaders consider waging a ground campaign. it left 45 people...
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fighting continued for a third day between israel and militants in gaza. air raid sirens rang out again in tel aviv. rocket fire targeted jerusalem, the first time that's happened since 1970. >>> harry reid has rejected a call by republicans for a select committee to investigate the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. and an explosion ripped through an oil rig in the gulf of mexico earlier. 11 people hurt, two are still missing. back to "hardball." ♪ >>> our challenge is to make sure that, you know, we are able to cooperate together, work together, find some common ground, make some tough compromises, build some consensus to do the people's business. >> still seems a little tired from the election there. back to "hardball." today president obama met with congressional leaders to kick off talks to avoid that fiscal cliff. it caps a week in which he's reached out to union leaders, business leaders, congressional leaders to soften the ground for a deal. at exactly is the white house driveway. the congressional leaders, boehner, reid, pelosi, mcconnell
fighting continued for a third day between israel and militants in gaza. air raid sirens rang out again in tel aviv. rocket fire targeted jerusalem, the first time that's happened since 1970. >>> harry reid has rejected a call by republicans for a select committee to investigate the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. and an explosion ripped through an oil rig in the gulf of mexico earlier. 11 people hurt, two are still missing. back to "hardball." ♪ >>> our...
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now, israel could do one of two things. they could decide this is my clint eastwood, make my day moment and go and attack all of the missile batteries along the gaza strip. there are thousandstens of thousands of missiles capable of reaching israel. that is why israel has the tanks along the border and preparing potentially for an invasion. why would they do that? obviously to get rid of missiles. it gives them options with iran. say six months from now israel decides to have a preemptive strike against iran's nuclear facilities. the retaliation that iran would launch would be those same missiles on the gaza strip coming into israel. this is sort of preemption of the preemption. melissa: precursor? >> gives them better option. melissa: why did this break out now? why is this happening? >> i think a couple of reasons. one is because, you know, gaza, they sort of fire missiles off every now and then. but the other is renewed relationship now, very different relationship between the hamas, which is a muslim brotherhood organiz
now, israel could do one of two things. they could decide this is my clint eastwood, make my day moment and go and attack all of the missile batteries along the gaza strip. there are thousandstens of thousands of missiles capable of reaching israel. that is why israel has the tanks along the border and preparing potentially for an invasion. why would they do that? obviously to get rid of missiles. it gives them options with iran. say six months from now israel decides to have a preemptive...
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hamas has leveled some missiles on israel so israel counter attacks and i think what israel wants to do is get rid of all the missiles and missile batteries that threaten israel not only for now, but for later. because, if israel does a preemptive attack on iran's nuclear sites say six months down the the road, retaliation would be from those missiles, if israel right now is sort of doing a preemptive move to allow them to do another preemptive move later on. >> dave: the video were you just seeing was live video after explosion that just happened. what does that do to the u.s.? do they have to enter this, not with troops by any means. >> no. >> dave: but if israel goes in with a ground war, what is our position on all of this considering that egypt is appearing to defend hamas in this situation. >> you hit on the real key to this. what does egypt do, they have a 40-year peace treaty with israel, haven't fought each other for 40 years, does the new government, muslim brotherhood of egypt abrogate that treaty? does the muslim brotherhood of egypt say these are my muslim brotherhood br
hamas has leveled some missiles on israel so israel counter attacks and i think what israel wants to do is get rid of all the missiles and missile batteries that threaten israel not only for now, but for later. because, if israel does a preemptive attack on iran's nuclear sites say six months down the the road, retaliation would be from those missiles, if israel right now is sort of doing a preemptive move to allow them to do another preemptive move later on. >> dave: the video were you...
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israel is going to react to that. i think you'll see a very intense demonstration between out of pockets to some degree, don't they? >> yeah, but that's a big risk. so the big driver of the israeli operation right now is the long-range rockets that were allegedly supplied by iran and which hamas has been using to target major urban centers in israel like tel aviv, like jerusalem. tel aviv has been the red line for israel, and as long as hamas has been in possession of these rockets and can maintain that threat against israeli population centers, israel can't afford to sit back. so the air strikes, yes, they have been achieving some success, but hamas has still been lobbying those rockets over. we saw that today with strikes in jerusalem as well as in tel aviv, so it really comes down to that intelligence question. how many rockets does hamas have in its possession, and if hamas is able to get out of this with some rockets, that's a huge symbolic victory for them. >> is this something we've seen before, or is this colo
israel is going to react to that. i think you'll see a very intense demonstration between out of pockets to some degree, don't they? >> yeah, but that's a big risk. so the big driver of the israeli operation right now is the long-range rockets that were allegedly supplied by iran and which hamas has been using to target major urban centers in israel like tel aviv, like jerusalem. tel aviv has been the red line for israel, and as long as hamas has been in possession of these rockets and...
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>> well, i think the united states has to urge israel and has to be with israel 100% in protecting israel's security. you're absolutely right. these are terrorists. you've got rockets coming into jerusalem which even saddam hussein, during the persian gulf war, the war in 1991, even he did not send missiles, sent rockets into jerusalem. this situation is dire and i'm sure like you, i have friends, family, loved ones whose kids are in the military, families live there. you can't live with rockets pouring in. so i do think our role has to be to try to secure peace and security for israel, whether through negotiations or through support of israel's right to defend itself. >> rick: that's been the message from the white house is that the administration, the united states believes that israel has every right to defend itself. we heard today from the president's deputy national security advisor that the president and benjamin netanyahu have been in touch every single day since this conflict began. what more should or could the u.s. be doing? >> well, you know, there is this term, light footprint.
>> well, i think the united states has to urge israel and has to be with israel 100% in protecting israel's security. you're absolutely right. these are terrorists. you've got rockets coming into jerusalem which even saddam hussein, during the persian gulf war, the war in 1991, even he did not send missiles, sent rockets into jerusalem. this situation is dire and i'm sure like you, i have friends, family, loved ones whose kids are in the military, families live there. you can't live with...